November 17, 2007
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Myths about Minis and Xanga Credits
For those of you who don’t know – I’m the software engineer behind Xanga Minis, and the Credits system (I had a lot of help from rest of the engineers though – and the look and feel of the Minis system is 100% Marc and Chris). I only joined the Xanga team three months ago, so I essentially cut my teeth on the Minis system. As such – I get a little testy when people talk nasty about my “baby”. Now mind you, I have no problem with a little constructive criticism or requests for new features, I might even accept a comment about how “minis are too goofy.” However, if you’re looking for a way to attract my unending fury, just post a comment like:
“Wow, that’s really stupid… you have to PAY for a large, obtrusive
icon to be displayed next to your comment? And you expect to actually
make money off of this?”or like:
“who thinks of crap like minis and pulse anyway??? someone with a facebook account that thinks xanga needs to compete?”
I spend three months coding this to listen to this? “C’mere and I’ll mini your face!” That’ll teach you to insult my babies. But looking into the issue a little more deeply, I found that a lot of people feel very strongly about Minis. They either love them and use them obsessively or they believe that Minis are an abomination signaling the end of days for Xanga. After putting some thought into why this might be, I’ve come to believe that there is some core misunderstandings about Minis and Credits and where we at Xanga hope to go with them. Here I’ll attempt to address the top 5 complaints and questions (from my personal point of view).
1) What is a Mini and why would I ever give someone one?
A Mini is essentially a miniature gift card. Think Hallmark, but designed to fit in a comment sized area on your page. You give people Minis to mark special occasions or to show your fellow Xangans that you appreciate them. Any time you would send someone a gift card, you would send someone a Mini.2) What are Xanga Credits and why do I need them to buy Minis? This seems like Xanga is just trying to get into our wallets!
Xanga Credits are not meant to be treated like cash. A better analogy would be like Frequent Flyer Miles for Xanga users. The Xanga community primarily gains value from two simple things a) people writing good posts, and b) people commenting on those posts and encouraging those people to continue writing. As such Xanga passes out credits for every new eProp a person gives and for every new eProp a person receives. If you are a good blogger, or you are a supportive commenter you’ll rack up the credits in no time. We also give out credits for becoming a Premium member. Currently the only way Xangans have of redeeming credits is by purchasing Minis – but we hope to provide all sorts of additional perks (its just a matter of how fast we can program the new features – sorry! ^_^). Of course if you don’t feel like being a supportive member, (or your blog isn’t as popular as TheTheologiansCafe) and you still want to give out a gaggle of Minis, we do allow you to buy credits. But that’s up to you.3) But why aren’t Minis free?! If I’m giving them out, I’m being supportive aren’t I?
One of the big complaints with eProps was that they don’t mean anything. If they’re free to give, what is the point of giving them? Well, when you give someone the 1000 eProp Mini, its your way of saying “WOW that post was worth 2 weeks worth of accumulating Credits!” You really rock! We want Minis to mean something special and putting a credit cost on them is one way of doing that.4) “Minis are ugly” or “Minis totally clash with my Goth Emo Xanga Theme.”
Minis aren’t for everyone, just like profile pics, or eprops, you can go into your account settings and turn them off.5) Doesn’t Facebook have a gift system? Xanga is just trying to be like Facebook. I like Xanga because it doesn’t have all that lame stuff.
Fine. The next time you want a new feature, don’t talk to me about it. [hehe just kidding]. Seriously though, we here at Xanga are always trying to innovate and come out with new and better ways for people to express themselves. That means we may sometimes share some features with other folks, but our style is distinctly our own. Besides, we [Xanga] were here first.Over and out
- Joe
Comments (67)
Keep up the good work, honey. Just don’t listen to those naysayers. Your minis rock! I like the way they set my comments apart and draw attention to them. I also love getting them, because it takes a few extra steps to give them and I appreciate that someone made the extra effort to make me feel special (I don’t know if that’s why they did it, but I still feel special when I get them).
I could care less what myspace or facebook does. I am a xanga girl and I always will be!
Keep up the good work Joe…seriously.
I like the mini’s…although I’m not entirely thrilled about them.
But, I’m finding a good use for them.
I like xanga…but I think people are just shy of change….and mini’s signify change…
however, the flexibility that xanga provides in comments, etc…
no one can really compare.
until later…rock on.
Thanks! :ssgrin:
(Sigh) This is the 3rd time I writing this comment. My connection keep dying & it keeps erasing my comment. = ( Here goes:
1st off, give yourself a big pat on the back. U did great. I’m sorry u had 2 come out & defend your baby. We should have put a little more thought in2 our oh-so-thoughtless comments. But I’m glad u wrote this. It served as a great reminder & it gave me some insight on Xanga’s side of all this.
I’ve been noticing a lot of changes with Xanga recently, & I appreciate how u guyz r taking Xanga 2 the next level. That’s why Facebook, Myspace, blogspot… etc etc etc can come & go, but Xanga will always b where my heart is.
Lastly, it takes a real man 2 take criticism so gracefully.
thanks for clarifying… and thanks for stopping by… see you later
i like the super smileys
Dont worry! I appreciate your hard work!:ssgoofywink:
haha…. oops did i do that? O=) i have to laugh cuz i don’t know you but the ‘i’ll mini your face’ made me laugh pretty hard…. bwahahahaha
Hey Joe-
On my Xanga my minis won’t open. I don’t have Javascript disabled and in my account settings Xangans are allowed to give me minis. Please help???
<3 Jack
So, I have a question about Minis. I buy one with my credits and I post it to only that comment, right? It doesn’t add them to my xanga account so other people can add them when they comment for me, right? That’s what I thought they were but then I tried to buy one. Does it only work that once time? If I want that mini again do I have to buy it again? I’m lost on this, help.
i hope you’re happy now. you’re a “mini” celebrity. yakyakyak.
wow. how is it that you have such a funny gf? you must feel blessed.
:sscrush:
I have seen people using the minis more and more. I think every time you roll out a new product, some people are not going to like it but they don’t have to use it. You did a good job and you should be proud of your work.
Test!
How can I earn more than 1,000 credits?
I mean, got to 1,000 the other day and tried to go over it and it just stayed at 1,000. Then the next day, I had 1,025.
For non-premium users 1000 credits is the “limit” – you need to spend some before you can “earn” any more by leaving comments. (The limit is 5000 credits for premium users.) These values will most likely be adjusted once we have some more expensive things to purchase [like premium].
To “break” the credit limit, you need your friends to give you some Minis, since a lot of Minis come with gift credits that ignore the built in limits.
Well, I think this totally rocks. So, thanks! <3
Steff
^_^
:ssstar:
hungry
i enjoy collecting credits and i’m so stingy with them that i’ve never given anybody a mini!
:ssgrin: I’m glad you enjoy them panda! ^_^
I LOVE the mini idea, of giving people minis and receiving them! But Id really think they would be more awesome by 1000 times if there was a way you could display them in your profile instead of hiding them in a specific post by clicking comments. for example, you could give us xangans a code to display all of our minis recieved in a custom module or just give us a module specifically for minis!! Id love that so much and it would make spending thousands of hard earned credits on a special mini more worth getting! Thanks
Keep up the good work
Thanks I just wanted to know what they were and you cleared that up for me nicely.
“Come Here and I’ll mini your face”!!! LOL:ssgrin:
Keep up the good work and come out more interesting stuffs … i enjoy collecting credits… it had made my blogging life loaded with tons of funs … Thx !!!! :sslove:
At first I thought Minis were rather lame, but I have come to enjoy them. Thank you for the work you did in creating them. I really appreciate the fact that new ones are added often. I’ve wanted one that says “A hug for you” or something else appropriate for a same-gender friend who is having a tough time. But, I didn’t comment to go a-begging. I just wanted to say, “Thanks!”
I like them. Thanks for all of your work.
One question. Is there a limit to how many credits I can earn? I get 1,000 pretty often but then they stop accumulating until I give some away. Is there a cap? I would give more away if I could accrue more.
Thanks,
Old Hat
Thanks for explaining how credits are earned. I like the seasonal minis especially. Like this one……….
:ssalien: I haven’t been on xanga for awhile… like a year maybe. I just recently came back because I missed it and finally got a lifetime premium account. I was all excited and started clicked around and I was like… whoa… what’s going on?
Peoples pages were looking awesome… After excessive clicking I realized that was due to themes… Which I am still afraid to try because I don’t necessarily understand them. The whole mini thing… It’s cool but I kind of don’t understand so I’ve been hesitant towards using them also. I comment daily… I think I’m racking up points? (maybe a cool feature would see how many points you’re getting in a day?) .. But yeah… I don’t really use the gifts on facebook either.
:ssboohoo: Sorry! I will try and use them more after I’ve stuck around for awhile.
Great work!
… oh… and could you please get back to me sometime when theres some script that puts my dates in Spanish? .. Perhaps I can make my theme in Spanish all together? That would be fabulous!
i didn’t use to like minis when they first came out – now i love them. thank you for your hard work!
People just need to ALWAYS gripe about something. Down with the haters, man. Programming is tough work! Stay tough. You’re doing awesome.
i like the mini’s….but i wish there were more generic ones….like just cute pictures, because most of them seem kind of personal…and i don’t know these people :]
I knew once reading this well written article that there would a million minis in the comments section hahahaha
Thanks for clearing up some of the information regarding credits, I was just thinking, “what else can these be used for?”
I think you just need to remember there’s still a large angsty population that uses this site and doesn’t like any change at all.
Love the credits… and these super smileys! I want them! .. :sssmile:
But… is there a limit on how many we can have per day? I’m kind of obsessive when it comes to gaining points. So… if your goal was creatting more xanga addicts.. ocd people like me are hooked. :sslove:
@sugarxane - I’m glad you like them! sean is the one who wrote the super smileys.
@Kefga_X - ^_^ Thanks!
@joseph -
I’ve found them :sssmile: … and confiscated them! :ssgoofywink:
@sugarxane - :ssoh:
It looks like the same person who did the art direction for the super smilies did the art direction of the minis as well as a number of other xanga graphics.
There is also a certain color sensibility to the whole system. You’re theme almost matches the sensibility perfectly.
I didn’t really like the minis much but they grew on me, as did the total style and direction of xanga branded graphics.
It almost ties into the navigation of the new homepage as well, the whole package of changes.
I have no complaints. Is there an emo or scene mini?
I just want to say that I love Minis and that Xanga is way better than Facebook!
Michael
=D
I like them. I don’t use them very often but sometimes, I come across an entry which I empathize a lot but I don’t know what to say. So I use a Mini.
^_^
They are cute and I just wish there were more designs~
=]
Thanks for all your hard work. *wave*
@BenjimonYetAgain - actually the Super Smileys come from Sean, a Xanga user – I’m not sure where he got the images from. The Minis graphics were actually created by 4-5 artists who we commissioned to make them, and then converted into flash.
We’re actually going to have a contest (hopefully soon) where you folks can submit ideas for minis.
Thank you for adding more fun into xanga. :ssgoofywink:
how about more creative minis?
something like facebook’s superlative sort of thing.
(just a friendly suggestion)
I wish we could have custom mini’s. I’d like them better if I could upload my own image and have my OWN minis that are distinct from everyone elses minis.
Xanga is like Kung Fu. It is no mixed fashion; it is endless! Constantly adding to itself!
Alright well it doesn’t add to itself . . . People like this guy do it. I say thanks; Mini’s are cool and/or funny little things that say (I suppose) that you’re glad that you read something. Or something.
I totally forgot . . . the MINI.
I freaking like mini’s!
Silly me, I love them and thought it was a great idea!!! Typing mere words just can’t say it all!!!:sscrush:
Totally cool with me! Makes it more fun to comment anyway!:ssgoofywink:
Dude! Thanks for your work.
Guess I’m out of the loop from all the Xanga-grumps. I’ve enjoyed the site immensely and find the minis to be a fun addition.
Wow, you got a lot of minis from your commenters (if there is such word).
“C’mere and I’ll mini your face!” That’ll teach you to insult my babies.
Haha, that is so funny.
Oh yeah.
I think you should seriously GreekPhysique‘s suggestions for you.
That’s all.
Haha, I love that you call minis your baby! Way to show passion for your work!
)
Totally agree. I like the feature and appreciate the cost of having much of my surfing time spent in a well-deserved mini. Well done. Your hard work was not in vain.
Perfect post! By the way, I love minis!! =) 5 stars, my friend. :ssstar:
I love this post. You have a great sense of humor, honestly.
Primarily, I think people just dislike change. And sometimes, they have trouble adjusting to new things.
Btw, love your profile pic. Too cute!
Indeed, a lot of hard work goes into site coding and it can be a major blow when people don’t love it as much you do. Personally it sounds like one of those big changes a lot of people don’t embrace from the get-go because they don’t want things to change. I’m positive their outlook will change in good time, Minis are a good idea and will no doubt improve as the idea matures.
@morrighu - Eugenia is working on a contest for people to make their own custom minis. ^_^ The best ones will be added to our collection. Unfortunately, we can’t allow users to create their own minis by uploading pictures, because the potential for spam, or inappropriate use is far too high. It is one thing to let people have custom smileys on their own sites, it is something entirely different if you let people put images of their own choosing on someone else’s site.
Thanks so much for your support! All of you! ^_^
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@HumbleWalk -
@Femme003 -
@Amandasbiggestfan - you mean you don’t have over 1000 credits?
I luv minis. Yes I do. :sscrush:
Could you help me out? People try to give me minis, but it doesn’t work?? Any idea what is wrong?
On my Xanga my minis won’t open. I don’t have Javascript disabled and in my account settings Xangans are allowed to give me minis.
I’m going to work very hard to get a premium account using Xanga credits.
:ssgrin: minis are cuuute
but pretty useless hahaha!
“Minis totally clash with my Goth Emo Xanga Theme”
I LOL’d so hard at this hahahahaha